Summary:

Christian Drapeau, a neurophysiologist and stem cell researcher, discusses the importance of stem cells in the body’s repair system. He explains that as we age, our body’s ability to produce stem cells decreases, leading to slower recovery from physical exertion and other health issues. Drapeau has developed a blend of plants, called STEMREGEN® Release, that act as stem cell mobilizers, effectively doubling the number of stem cells in circulation. This can help to offset the decline in stem cell production and improve overall health. He also discusses the impact of lifestyle factors such as stress, smoking, and drinking on stem cell function, and suggests ways to support stem cell health, including reducing systemic inflammation and improving microvasculature.

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Transcription:

Megan Lyons:

Thank you so much Christian Drapeau for coming on Wellness Your Way. I am very excited to have you here.

Christian Drapeau:

Really? My pleasure, Megan. I was looking forward to this one,

Megan Lyons:

As am I. Well, as I told you before we started recording, I’ve seen you in person at many conferences and I’ve personally bought your product way before we set up this interview. So I’m a big fan of the work that you’re doing and grateful for all of that since I know a little bit about you, but the audience might not. Can you just start by telling us about you?

Christian Drapeau:

My background is neurophysiology, so I did my degree Atill University, mostly studying on epilepsy and memory at least from the PAGI was doing was on memory and epilepsy. And then I left that PhD and I was hired by a company in Oregon that was selling a product that you may have heard about Klamath Lake blue-green algae. And it’s this study of that ingredient that really led me to the whole field of stem cell research. So that’s sort of in a few words, that’s where I’m coming from.

Megan Lyons:

That’s amazing. And if we really went into all the details, the bio would be very long, but that gives us a path forward to where you are now. Now blue-green algae got you into this current line of work, which is primarily focused on how we can regenerate our body stem cells or increase our body stem cells. Start with the basics. What are stem cells and why are they important?

Christian Drapeau:

Stem cells are to better understand them oftentimes I like to describe what is not a stem cell. So all the cells in your body are called somatic cells. They are specialized. They will do only one thing. So you think of a cell of your heart, it will only contract and make your heartbeat. A cell of your retina will respond to light. The cell of your pancreas will make insulin. They’re all specialized doing one thing. They never transform it, they never multiply. At the other end of the spectrum, you have stem cells. They are nothing in terms of their identity of stem cells. Their role really in what they’re doing in the body is their ability to transform into what will become a somatic cells. So they were historically believed to be precursors to blood cells and they are so they are the precursors to red blood cells, white blood cells and platelets. But what was really the big deal, the big discovery that gave rise to everything that is today, the whole field of stem cell research is the discovery that those stem cells in the bone marrow, not only they can become blood cells, but they can become anything else in the body. They are the repair system of the body.

Megan Lyons:

That’s amazing. And so in a healthy young person, if there’s some kind of damage, how do these stem cells actually work to heal and regenerate tissue

Christian Drapeau:

In anybody at any age during your entire life, stem cells or your repair system? So you really need to think, and it’s not a comparison, an analogy, a metaphor. This is exactly what your stem cells are. They are your repair systems. Imagine that you cut yourself, you get a bacteria that gets into the cut, your immune system will detect that bacteria, send the message to your lymph nodes that will trigger the release of a bunch of immune cells. They will go everywhere in your body, but they’ll be attracted to where there is the infection. They will go beside the bacteria, they will kill the bacteria. This is your immune system. At the same time, that injury will release very specific compounds that are very well known today. Well-documented, they will go to your bone marrow. They will trigger the release of stem cells from your bone marrow.

These stem cells will circulate everywhere in the body. But when they go into the fine capillaries of the affected area right there locally, one specific compound is released that will connect your receptor at the surface of stem cells. It will make the stem cells express adhesion molecule and the stem cell will stop in the capillary, migrate across the capillary while get into the tissue, crawl to the site of the injury. And upon contact with cellular debris of that tissue, the stem cells will multiply and transform into cells of that tissue. Anytime you’ve had an injury at any time in your life, it’s your repair system that kicked in and make it so that six weeks later that damage is completely gone. And as a child it’s actually completely gone. You have no, you may have a memory, but you have no trace left of any broken bone, anything that you’ve had as a kid because you had plenty of stem cells to repair.

Megan Lyons:

Yes. So you’re making it very clear, which I appreciate. This happens all throughout our life, whether we’re two years old or 90 years old. But it is true that our stem cell capacity or number or what would you say, what decreases as we age

Christian Drapeau:

The number of stem cells? So essentially your stem cells are made by red marrow. The red marrow shrinks by conversion. It converts into yellow marrow or fatty marrow that does not make stem cells. That conversion starts on the day. We’re born by age 15. You’ve lost about half of your red marrow. By age 30, you’ve lost about 90% of your red marrow. And that corresponds to a 90% decline in the number of stem cells in circulation, which is really what dictates your ability to repair and to stay healthy as you age. And it continues to go down as we age. So it’s that decline that really makes us discover in our thirties that we’re no longer superman Wonder woman. You realize that you go run a race and at 15 it didn’t matter. You run a race one day, you run another one the day after. And if you have to, you play football in the third day, it really doesn’t matter. At 30 35, you start to discover that your body is just not the same. It’s that decline in how many stem cells you have.

Megan Lyons:

Got it. So reduced capacity to recover from physical exertion. What other changes, maybe skin or joints, what other things might we notice?

Christian Drapeau:

The thing we need to understand is that we experience aging. I mean by this like our individual experience of the process of aging is that we grow, we mature, we reach let’s say 25 years of age peak health. And from there slowly it starts to be, and we experience experience it as a slow decline over time. But it is not how aging is taking place at the cellular level. At the cellular level, you lose cells every day, everywhere in your body, every single organ in tissue loses cells and they’re replaced by stem cells. The turnover rate of tissues and organs varies. You get a new skin every month. You get a new liver every two, three years. You get half of a new heart every 25 years. New muscle every nine years, everything is in rotation. But that means that your liver, right now, let’s say you are 40 years old, your liver is not 40 years old, your liver is three years old.

Constantly in process of turnover. Turnover means you lose cells. So you need stem cells to replace the cells that are being lost. But if by age 30 you’ve lost 90% of your stem cells and it keeps going down, there’s a point where you don’t have enough stem cells to offset cellular loss. So when you’re asking, so what’s the link between, there’s recovery, but what else can we see in terms of benefits? We simply have to think of it as replacing the cells that are being lost. When you start to have a decline in the number of circulating stem cells, think of what is, and everybody, if I ask this question, most people will have an idea of the answer. What is the weak spot in your physiology given your genetics? Look at your parents, look at your siblings, your lifestyle, your exposure to environmental toxin, your past injuries.

There’s a slew of things. You will know, gee, I smoke when I was younger. I know it’s going to be my lung, my pancreas with diabetes, my family has diabetes. Whatever it is, that organ is subjected to more stress. It loses cells more rapidly. If you don’t have enough stem cells to offset that cellular loss, that’s where you will experience the deficit faster. So flip this whole phenomenon around. If you put more stem cells in circulation, you will see improvements wherever. You tend to have a more rapid turnover, which I’m going back to your question. The skin, which is oftentimes where it is seen, people start to take STEMREGEN® Release, which puts more stem cells in circulation and they say, well, I don’t know if I’ve seen a benefit yet on my heart, my knee, whatever the reason they’re taking it from taking it for. But they say, but people are asking me what am I doing because I look more radiant. Your skin is a large consumer of stem cells. So when you do put more stem cells in circulation, your skin tends to really change.

Megan Lyons:

Yes, very interesting. Now you don’t have to know the exact numbers. You may or may not, but I remember it just at the conference I saw you at recently. You gave some number like we have 10 million new stem cells every minute or something crazy. That blew my mind. Do you remember what you were saying?

Christian Drapeau:

Well, I think if I said 10 million, I was talking about STEMREGEN® Release. So it’s a blend of plants. This is what I have done for the past 23 years. That’s how I started with this famous blue-green algae from Klamath Lake. I discovered that it worked by putting more stem cells in circulation. Then I kept looking at various plants. So now I have a blend of the top five plants that we have documented over the past 20 some years that act as stem cell mobilizers. So you take two capsules of STEMREGEN® Release and it will put in your own blood circulation on average 10 million additional stem cells. And you need to think that you have about 10 on average, 10, 12 million stem cells in your blood circulation. We roughly doubled the number of stem cells in circulation. And where that is significant is that, and these are all approximation because although the information is very well known at the same time, it has not been studied a lot. So we’re diving right now in more pure research to document all of that more. But the actual number of stem cells and an average 30-year-old is sort of an estimate. But the idea is that let’s say you are 50, if we double the number of stem cells in circulation, we’re getting you not far from where you were when you were 30. So the point is that we can give you back your ability to repair as you had it let’s say 10, 20 years ago. That’s really what putting more stem cells in circulation means.

Megan Lyons:

This is fantastic. Now, people are very sensitive when they hear the term stem cells because there have been other practices. And here we’re not talking about embryonic stem cells or any of that kind of stuff. We’re literally talking about plant compounds that help your body regenerate or create new stem cells. So can you talk about the differences between where stem cell treatments have gone and why you wound up on this formula?

Christian Drapeau:

I mean, we can talk a lot about this because for most people when we talk about stem cells, it’s a treatment. You go somewhere, you get stem cells and the question is where are they coming from and how many, that’s mostly what people are asking for when they walk out of that clinic. The only stem cells they have in mind is the one that were just injected because they paid a lot of money for it. And what they don’t realize, and if I had one key message today, it would be to make people understand you have had stem cells since the day you are born. The one that matters the least in your life are those that just got injected. Not because they don’t matter, it’s just because in a lifetime they’re not very relevant. Number wise. I’m not saying they cannot bring a benefit.

So the difference, you get a bolus, meaning a huge amount of stem cells in one shot. Sometimes people can experience very significant repair. What we do is that we achieve pretty much the same thing. We just do it slowly over time. And what I mean over time, if you release 10 million stem cells with two capsules of STEMREGEN® and you do this for a month, you have released 300 million of your own stem cells. It is significant what it can do for your health. So I do believe, I know that what I’m going to say here is a big statement, but I do believe that if 20 years ago we knew what we know today that our stem cells are just as good as any other stem cells, then the whole push to find sources of stem cells because to get injected would not be the same because all this momentum started at a time when we thought that our stem cells from our bone marrow were really lesser stem cells not that effective. So we need to go and find better ones elsewhere. And then along the path we realized, you know what they’re about just as good as any others. Not completely, but the fact that you release them every day, you can do this for long periods of time. The sum of all of this ends up being definitely more than the impact of one treatment if you want.

Megan Lyons:

That’s great. So if someone is in general good health, like maybe they’re aging, they’re experiencing slower recovery like you said, but nothing, no major issue, would you just recommend these two capsules per day kind of forever and then if there is some kind of major injury or trauma or surgery, maybe increasing that or do you recommend cycling it? What’s your protocol?

Christian Drapeau:

No, what you described is exactly what we recommend. Let’s go back to what we just talked about before. The fact that the development of problems as we age are caused. Because every day you don’t have enough stem cells to offset C loss. I published this whole view, which is the role of stem cells and disease formation in 2013. And in that article, in that hypothesis, I was saying there’s a way to test for this. Go and count the number of stem cells in people who have developed various types of age-related diseases. And let’s compare that with what we find in healthy people of the same age. And since that time, about 50 or so studies have been published. And if we look at the number of stem cells in the bloodstream of people with atherosclerosis, heart disease, COPD, diabetes, kidney failure, liver failure, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, arthritis, lupus, the list keeps growing.

All these people have on average 50% or less than what we find in a healthy person of the same age. So definitely we develop the problems because every day we totally offset cellular loss. So from that thought, I’ve always worked with this thought that you need to increase the number of stem cells every day to take care of the problem every day because it is a day-to-day decline, but with STEMREGEN® Release. So this is really the most potent formula of everything that I have done in the past. And if you release 10 million stem cells with two capsules after a month, that’s 300 million, you might very well be taking care of what took place in terms of decline over the past two, three months. So maybe cycling could totally work. You do this, let’s say the change of seasons. I will continue just because I’ve been into this now for so many years, I’ve been taking it every day for the past 20 years. I see the benefit. I’ve seen the benefits in my family, my parents. So for me, I’m taking it every day. But there’s definitely somebody wants to cycle. It’s not bad.

Megan Lyons:

Okay, very interesting. So I was going to ask about the lifestyle factors that contribute to decreasing our body stem cells, but now I’m kind of thinking it’s a chicken or the egg thing as you mentioned, all of these diseases, is it the ultra processed food and the inflammatory oils and the overstress and whatever that caused the disease that then deteriorated stem cells? Or did the stem cells deterioration then cause the disease? It’s kind of like a cycle. Is that right?

Christian Drapeau:

I would not look at it this way. I would say that fundamentally, let me put it this way. You’re living in a mountain with pure water, remote areas, pure water, pure air. You grow all your food, everything is pure, sounds great. Everything in your life is pure. Your body is still cycling. You will still lose stem cells every day. The red marrow will convert to fatty marrow. The number of stem cells in circulation will decline. You will not be able to offset all the cellular loss. Something will decline. And if nothing specifically declines, then there will be this sort of slow degeneration overall of your health and there’s a point where you will pass. So you decline is driven regardless what you’re doing by this number of stem cells. But remember, it’s a balance. You need to have enough stem cells to offset cellular loss, but you also want to slow down cellular loss.

So this is where almost everything that we do right now in the whole wild world of wellness is about handling the slowing down of that cellular loss, making sure you have good oils to get good cell membrane good a DP production, good mitochondrial function, good telomere length, everything that you can think about supports your existing cells. But they have their own life cycle. They will nevertheless, they will cycle. So stem cells is the other end of that equation. It’s to replace those that are being lost. So at the end of the day, they’re all into one. You want to put more stem cells in circulation and you want to make sure that you stop doing anything that can accelerate the generation and want to do everything that can support overall stem cell function.

Megan Lyons:

Amazing. So I want to get into some of the specific compounds in your formula, but before we get there, what are other things you say we want to do all the things to increase our stem cell production. What other lifestyle things or other nutrition factors would do that naturally for us?

Christian Drapeau:

So the one that is known to really put stem cells like increasing the number of stem cells in circulation is, for example, hyperbaric chamber, hyperbaric therapy. Oxygen. Yeah, exactly. Hyperbaric, what’s the word? Hyperbaric? Hyperbaric oxygen therapy. There you go. So this will put more stem cells in circulation by boosting the proliferation of stem cells. But it’s natural. But at the same time, it’s not. I mean, you cannot have an HBO chamber into your house. It’s a commitment. So you can do intense physical activity. But I’m realizing over the years that although it will put more stem cells in circulation, these stem cells are put out for a reason. It’s to repair the injuries that you just created in this severe physical activity. And I’m saying this because if those people take on top of that a product like STEMREGEN® Release, they almost invariably come and say, I was able to recover much faster.

So meaning these stem cells are consumed, if you can put more on top of that, your body can really utilize them. But exercising intensely, regularly does put more stem cells in circulation. Meditation. Good. I’m talking about the traditional meditation, dog chain meditation, the one where you just stop the use of anything that is not the real use. So stop the use of your body, stop the use of your mind, stop the use of your senses and really rest in a really centered space. Within an hour or two, we can document the increase of stem cells. I think it’s pretty cool.

Megan Lyons:

That’s amazing.

Christian Drapeau:

Outside of that, there’s nothing really known to put more stem cells in circulation other than the plants that we have documented. But you can do things to support your stem cells inflammation. Systemic inflammation will reduce the role of your stem cells, the function of your stem cells. So I tell people, add a lot of color into your diet. Berries, colored vegetables, they all contain polyphenols that will have an overall impact on systemic inflammation. We just launched a new product called signal, stem and signal specifically to address that systemic inflammation, you want to be able to improve microvasculature. So nattokinase nitric oxide, rebuild the glycocalyx into your capillaries, rebuild the surrounding of your capillaries for capillary integrity. So we also have a product that we just launched last weekend that is called mobilize. That’s what it does. So over the years I’m talking about it, but in the back of my mind, why not put all of this together?

So we give direct access to these, but otherwise you can find that in your diet. Like nattokinase is fine in nato, fermented soy, I like it, but a lot of people don’t like it. It’s pretty slimy and the taste is very unique. But you can do these smoking. Smoking, cigarette smoking will reduced your stem cell function as well as stem cell function for the people who are around you breathing that smoke in the air equally, not more because you smoke. So you smoke, your whole family is affected. Drinking will do the same thing as well. Excessive drinking will do the same thing as well. Stress will do the same thing as well. I think that as we discover the link between stress and stem cell function or suppression of stem cell function, we may be putting the finger on why stress has been historically associated with a whole slew of degenerative diseases. So many of them that it’s really hard to understand how stress affects all these things. And now the fact that it affects stem cells and stem cells is linked to the development of almost any kind of age-related disease. It’s probably really the main mechanism of action. So these are all different elements of our lifestyle that we should either adopt or avoid to support stem cell function.

Megan Lyons:

That’s fascinating. Stress is one that I love to hate or hate to love or whatever because I’ll do all the things. I’ll eat whatever you tell me. I’ll exercise, I’ll take all the supplements. But I still work on managing stress and I’m very open with my audience about that. And I’ve made so much progress over time. But my theory right now is hormesis, right? So a little bit of stress actually good for the body and then just really learning to recover and being honest about that, undulation that up and down. Do you think that’s true as it relates to stem cell or do you think it would be best if we were just like living on a beach in Bali, not doing anything ever?

Christian Drapeau:

Let me put a different spin on this because I lived in a monastery year years ago. So this is a deep, deep part of my more private life. I think that’s sort of the, how could I say? That’s the alternative strategy. If you can’t live without stress, the moment you live without stress, you’ll realize it’s a bad strategy. Interesting. I love it. You can live without stress. There’s a place for you to live without stress. And I can approach, I mean we could do a whole podcast just on that, but let me put it this way. You spend your day, not you personally. We spend our days thinking about a hundred thousand things that actually never really happened the way that we’re thinking about them. We stress by handling those illusionary problems that are not really there the way we think about it. And today, those that you handled last Monday, you completely forgot about them.

They’re gone. And every day of your life are filled with these illusionary problem. We need to really look at this reality. And one, they just say, my mind is actually not working for me. It’s really not working for me. I will go as far and I know it will look like an exaggeration, but the day that you realize that what I’m telling you right now is a true statement, your life will be transformed. There’s not a whole lot, virtually anything that your mind tells you to think about that is real. So you take a distance and you just watch all of this and you don’t let it touch you because you know what? It’s never real. It’s never real. And then we’ll grow in you a sense of calm and peace that over time becomes untouched by what is happening. It doesn’t mean you don’t care. It doesn’t mean you don’t handle what needs to be handled. You handle everything actually, you handle it so much more efficiently because you’re not affected by the stress that makes you do things sometimes not like in the most act appropriate way. Does that make sense?

Megan Lyons:

It does. And I really appreciate the answer. Instead of giving me the free pass, like, oh yeah, Megan, you can be stressed and then learn to recover better. I believe that what you’re saying is true, that there is a solution where you don’t experience perceived stress. And like I said, I’ve made so much progress, but it gives me something to continue to reach for. So I appreciate that

Christian Drapeau:

You know that there’s a in learning, because I also studied a lot when I was younger, accelerated learning techniques. There’s a concept called recency, meaning imagine a learning curve. A learning curve is this is where you learn something like the beginning of a class, you remember well, the beginning, then your recall goes down and then you remember very well what is at the end of the lecture. And if in the middle of it there’s a joke or there’s something unusual, the curve will go up there. You’ll remember a lot of the things around that event and it goes back down. So the thought is anytime you get a good teacher and he constantly makes jokes. So this things that make this curves looks actually like this. Yes. And you profoundly increase your recall and peace and stress to me is the same thing. Reverse. If you make that wave and let’s say going down is going deep into peace, I would say you go down, you come back up.

And as you do this, you may say, when I go down, it’s a respite for me. But doing this never allows you to go to the depth of the piece that you experience. And in that piece, you really look at the mind and realize this mine is crazy. Yes, crazy. It’s a monkey. That’s how Indu tradition calls it. The monkey that jumps from branch to branch. It’s a monkey going everywhere with things that at the end of the day do not matter. So I would say something happens, it’s not true. Detach from it. Find that place, the rock inside that is where nothing moves and it’ll change your life.

Megan Lyons:

Wow, that is so fantastic and not what I expected to get from this interview. So again, thank you for that. Now I’m going to put the pressure on you because we want people to remember some of these plant compounds. And you just said that if someone tells a joke or does something to make it interesting, they’ll remember. So what can you say to transition us? I would love to talk about one or two of the specific compounds in your release formula.

Christian Drapeau:

These are plants that, so I discovered this blue-green al. So I’m working with blue-green algae. I’m hired in 1995 to do that work. And I’m looking at people reporting all kinds of benefits and I can explain why people at very significant benefits, touching heart function, lung function, pancreatic function, liver function, brain function, cardiovascular, kidney function, what is this plant doing out so many different aspects of human health and with an extent that was at times very impressive. So we had no ideas for a number of years until I came across a first article documenting stem cells going from the bone marrow to the brain and becoming a brain cell. My background is neurophysiology. We were told the brain does not regenerate. And in med school, bone marrow only make blood cells. And now that study showed a bone marrow stem cells when to the brain became a brain cell.

I thought it was pretty interesting. So this is before all the literature being on the internet. So I went to the local library and I look at what else I could find. I found a paper talking about stem cells going to the heart and the liver. So I thought if stem cells can become heart, liver, and brain, why not kidney long skin And the rest makes no sense that it’s those three and not the rest. So I thought it’s just a matter of time. Scientists will discover that they can become everything. And if they can become everything, they have to be the repair system of the body. How do you see a stem cells? It’s like you look at a caterpillar becoming a butterfly and you say, oh, that was one weird butterfly. No, all caterpillars will do that. So the moment that you see that, then that means that’s the role of stem cells.

So we published an article suggesting stem cells are the repair system of the body. And we thought, what if this blue-green al works by putting more stem cells in circulation? That’s how it all started. So there was in 2000, nobody was in the field of stem cell research. It did not exist. So I dove in that literature. We did all the work to document how it works, mechanism of action, active compounds, proof of concept, all of that. And then I turned to what other plants are known historically to be associated with many. If I ask you, they’ll come to mind right away. Sen, goji berries, adaptogen, medicinal mushroom, we tested all of those. They all have an effect, a certain effect on stem cells. But the real stars is when I looked at, I go to remote areas of the world in Madagascar, they don’t have access to medicinal mushroom from China.

They have access to whatever is there in Madagascar. So if you look at what they have used for centuries, for a whole slew of health problems, there is one species of aloe in Madagascar of 65 species present in Madagascar. One is used to make a product called Theona. So it’s called allo macro clatter. It existed but not available in the marketplace. So we had to develop the whole system of harvest using malagasy people in line with the government of Madagascar. It was a cool project. So now it’s an ingredient that is in STEMREGEN® Release. Amazing on the Tibetan plateau they use in traditional Chinese medicine, Mongolian medicine, Tibetan medicine for all kinds of problems touching the heart, cardiovascular system, the lung to help your body speed up recovery from bone fracture, burn to the skin. They use SeaOne berry. So I went on the Tibetan plateau, met with a farm, worked with them to develop an extract of SeaOne berry. We tested it and we got a good response on stem cell release. So we have like this, the bluegreen algae, all macro clatter from Madagascar, SeaOne berry from the Tibetan plateau from northern China, and a koan coming from a seaweed coming from a Labrador, Newfoundland coming from the north.

Megan Lyons:

That’s the key. That is fascinating. I can just imagine some of the experiences you’ve had, and we were talking before about your travel. I’m curious what your thought is because you’ve isolated these five compounds that you found to be most potent. And I see some of these products, whether they’re targeted at stem cells or completely different things, and they have literally 75 ingredients in there. And I think there can’t really be that much efficacy if there’s a teeny micro molecule of the product. So what do you see as the future? Do you want to keep adding or are you really convinced these five are it or you don’t know yet?

Christian Drapeau:

No, no. I have a whole list of ingredients that I really want to start testing again. So we completed fundraising, so now we have the funds to start to do that research. So we are getting now into retesting those plants. Let me give you an example. There’s a plant that comes from Asia that was imported in different places of the world. I came across that plant in the Caribbeans, in Martinique, and in Martinique there is a plant in French, they call it Tumo, which means for all disease.

Megan Lyons:

Oh

Christian Drapeau:

Wow. How can a plant be called for all diseases? I find it fascinating. So over the centuries they called a plant for all diseases. I want to test that plant. So these are the kind of plans that I have on a list right now that I want to test because just like you said, when you make a product, if you want that product to be effective, you need to put the amount that has been proven to have that effect. And oftentimes the amount is too much. So you cannot really have a product that is effective. So in STEMREGEN® Release, we really have put the amount of product that has been documented to trigger the release of stem cells as we have documented it and published it in the peer reviewed scientific literature. These are all crossover placebo controlled double-blind studies that were done to document the effect of these plants. That’s what we did with stem regen release. But yeah, I want to continue to find other plants.

Megan Lyons:

Wow, amazing. So as we close out, I’m just going to ask you to retouch on your three lines, your new products and the release, and tell people why they would use each one or what you might direct them towards. And then I would also love to hear after that any habits that you currently practice that we haven’t talked about related to your health. So you could take that in whichever order you would like.

Christian Drapeau:

Okay. So on these new products, we briefly talked about it earlier. Once you release stem cells, they’re in your blood. Now, there are a number of things, but the two main things that can suppress their ability to do their job. One of them is systemic inflammation. Call it noise. It’s noise in your bloodstream that will I make this analogy Sometimes, of course it’s a silly analogy, but it will make you understand it right away. You are in a, let’s say we were at the Bay King conference. I put an apple pie fresh out of the oven somewhere in that hotel. How do you find it?

Megan Lyons:

Smell.

Christian Drapeau:

You walk around, you smell. And when you walk by that room, oh you stop, you go there and slowly you find your way to the apple pie. That’s how stem cells end up in an injured tissue. Now lemme put a thousand crushed apples on the floor throughout the hotel. I’m making it a little bit more difficult for you to find where the signal is coming from. That’s what systemic inflammation is for a stem cell who wants to travel and find where to go. So we have a number of ingredients that have all been documented to reduce that background noise. So this is a product called signal, this product and the next one, mobilize are better to be taken on an empty stomach because one has enzymes that suppress systemic inflammation. The other one is called mobilize. And it’s just to understand that a stem cell can be up to 20 micron, your capillary is up to maybe 12 micron.

So for a stem cell to be able to really go into the fine capillaries to go in the areas where they need to do repair, you need to have a really healthy microvasculature, which means good blood fluidity hemodynamics. So you want to remove fibrin in the blood. So fibrinolytic like, so the product contains everything that I’m going to list right now. So nattokinase, then we want to support the integrity of capillaries, which means all the connective tissue collagen surrounding capillaries that really makes the health of a capillary. So we have bio flavanoids and plant extract known to boost the formation of all this surrounding for capillaries, nitric oxide precursors to dilate those micro vessels. And then there’s a layer lining up those vessels called the glycocalyx, which is a little bit like when you leave a hose landing in your garden that is wet all summer, it’s slimy.

It’s like slime on the surface of capillaries and it makes cells just go easily on these capillaries. So we have nitric oxide precursors, all the bioflavanoids that support capillaries, the polysaccharides that rebuild the glycocalyx and nattokinase to help for blood fluidity. So because of the nattokinase, it also needs to be taken on an empty stomach. So the protocol that we have is you take a sachet of mobilize, you mix it with water, then you take four tablets of signals, and then you take two capsules of STEMREGEN® Release. You take all of this together. So within about two hours you’ve optimized your blood circulation, you’ve reduced the background noise, you have a peak in the number of stem cells in circulation, and you really optimize the impact of these stem cells in your blood circulation. And as an example, I just literally just before hopping on that podcast, I got a text from a friend of mine, he was at the bio king conference and he said, Christian, I know for a long time now about STEMREGEN®, which is today the release.

And he said, yeah, I got benefit, but on my knee it never really did for me what I thought it could do. And this weekend, because we had the new products, he said, I just added that now to the protocol. And he said this morning after walking for three days at the show, he said, my knee is like I did not walk. My knee is totally fine. So basically saying, now I get it, this is what it is. You release stem cells, it’s great. But there are people who don’t get the full benefits of what they’re expecting. Stem cell injection is the same. They don’t get the full benefits of what they’re expecting. And it’s simply because once they’re released, there are other things that can prevent stem cells from fully doing their role in the body. So what we want to do is just try to handle these the best we can to really optimize to the best the role of stem cells in the body.

Megan Lyons:

That’s amazing. So if someone, oops, sorry to interrupt you. I think we got frozen little bit there. I just want to summarize what I think a protocol could be if someone wants to go all in, for sure. Let’s go with all of those. Let’s go with the release, let’s go with the mobilize. Let’s go with the, what’s other one? Signal. Signal. Or on the other end, if someone’s like, I don’t know, I’m budget conscious, I just want to start, let’s start with the release only and see if they can feel benefit from that. If they know they have some vasculature issues, let’s add in the mobilize. If they know they have inflammation issues, let’s add in the signal and kind of build that way. Is that correct? Yep,

Christian Drapeau:

Yep.

Megan Lyons:

Okay.

Christian Drapeau:

I mean we’ve had STEMREGEN® Release now for many years. I mean this is what I’ve had for 20 years in various forms. And we have had, I mean, thousands of stories. So there’s no question putting more stem cells in circulation does the job, but it’s not a hundred percent of the cases. And it’s not everybody who get benefit, who get the full benefits. So what we want to do here is to really optimize the results. So what you said is, is totally accurate. You can only do one. You do STEMREGEN® Release. If you can do a second one, I will ask yourselves, what do you think really is more effective for you right now? Yes. Do you think you have systemic inflammation then go for signal. Do you think your circulation is not optimal? You oftentimes have cold feet, cold hands, that kind of thing.

You get numb easily. Then go with mobilize. And also with the understanding that if you can for a short amount of time, boost all three, do all three, even if it’s a short amount of time. Because oftentimes when you have a problem that is chronic, it’s been there for a while, you have been releasing your stem cells every day for every single day that you’ve had that problem, why is it not repairing? There’s a reason that means access is not there. So I would say if that’s the case, then really I would say then go with mobilize. If you know that you have more than one area like this. So that means these areas have been leaking a lot of those inflammatory compounds. So you have a background of systemic inflammation, then add the signal to so that in one shot, improve circulation, reduce background noise, and then you can go and take care of these many areas and when you stop, they’re repaired. So now you’ve handled at once in a short amount of time, a lot of the issues that in your life were reducing your quality of life for quite some time.

Megan Lyons:

Oh, that’s so fantastic. I know a lot of people will be really excited about this and personally I’m excited to recommend to a few specific or more than a few specific clients that I can think of. So this is great. I would love just to hear something else about your current health routine that you would like to share, anything that we haven’t talked about yet. And then as we close, let people know where to find you.

Christian Drapeau:

I mean, there’s some, let’s say pulse electromagnetic frequencies. This is, to me, this and red lights are just game changer in a lot of ways. I have at times, if I walk a show like this for three days, I start to have some issues with my lower back. I just sit on a mat of pulse electromagnetic frequencies for 10 minutes. It, it’s handled. So for me, these are great technologies, but let’s for a moment talk about the things that cost zero,

Megan Lyons:

Love it

Christian Drapeau:

Or not a whole lot. Cold plunge. Of course you can buy expensive cold plunge, but for years I had a freezer that I just filled with water. It cost me $150. You need to pay attention because you don’t want it to freeze as a block. But I use this for a while. There is right now, I mean there’s a lot of benefits with coal plunge. So doing coal plunge and if there’s one, that to me is the go-to, because it changes. I mean, we think about health and we think about how health affect our mood and our mind and all of that. In my world, it all starts from the mind. So everything that we talked about before, meditation, taking a distance from yourself, the moment you reach a place of real peace, your life has changed. I will go as far as to say that the problem that is now making your life miserable will still be there. May still be there. It won’t make your life miserable. It’s just going to be a problem. It’s like you have a flat tire in your car and you just say, it’s just a flat tire. It doesn’t change me. And so it will change your perspective with everything that today is a problem and that is going to be the biggest change in your life.

Megan Lyons:

Oh, so amazing. Where can people find more about your products? Can you tell them the website or anything else you’d like to direct them to?

Christian Drapeau:

STEMREGEN.co, so STEMREGEN.co. This is where they can get all the products and information on the product and all of that. And I share a lot of insights on these products, on stem cells, on health, I have a whole background also as a herbalist. So I talk about all kinds of herbs on either TikTok or Instagram, @stemcellchristian.

Megan Lyons:

Fantastic. I can speak for the Instagram side and say you’re putting out great content over there. So I will put links to that and to the website in the show notes. Everyone please head down there and one more time. Thank you so much, Christian. I appreciate your wisdom and your insights and your time today.

Christian Drapeau:

My pleasure. Thank you.

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